July 17, 2011

Wires, Plugs, ICM

So after finding that my battery wasnt worth a damn. I got it replaced at advanced auto since it was only 7 months old. Got the new battery on. Also cleaned up the terminal connectors a bit just in case. Crank but no start again. However it did sound better when doing so.

Next on the agenda to try. New Wire and plug set.....
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By mansnorkle at 2011-07-17
Here they are in.....
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Now that they are all in. Still an ORANGE spark. Stronger than before but not blue. Still would not start.

So I finally got the guts to take off the Ignition Control Module to test and relocate it. It was a fun task. Got the front passenger tire off and got the ICM unbolted. Moved the connector up through to the top of the motor for relocation.

You can see the connector popping out there.
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So Autozone and Oreilly cannot test the Ignition Control Module for me so i will have to do it myself. After getting it out i noticed it was really gooey...
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Figured it was just buildup. So i was going to mount to the top of the motor and make sure and get a good ground to see if that was the issue. I had to take the little metal clip off that holds the wire to it. Well I undid the screws and this is what was inside......
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Im pretty sure thats not normal. Maybe dielectric grease? Looks fried without testing it. Any ideas????? Any how the cheapest i can find one is $84.00 from Autozone. Anyone got one cheaper?

Tried To Crank! Water Pouring from the back of the Engine

So, got the battery tested. It showed up fine. Redid the connections at the posts. Now Im getting good power from the battery to the rest of the car.

Time to crank. Whats that I hear? Sounds like someone pouring a bucket of water onto the cement. Dang. I looked under the truck and saw a bunch of antifreeze.

Looked in the engine compartment and found a hose with a big split in it. Went to the parts store to get a replacement. They couldn't tell me what size it was. Another post to the forums and I got an answer to my question.

From Hose

Thanks to Shooter from Planetisuzoo.com forum....
That's just your basic 5/8" inside diameter heater hose plus 2 clamps. Not preformed or anything. Connects to the hose "manifold" located atop the tranny between engine and firewall. I'd get 2 feet to play it safe though it isn't that long. Probably need a little grease due to it being a tight fit. Scroll to the first pic in the attached link. The other end of your new hose will connect where you see the hose clamp which is at approximately the 8 o'clock position from the red circle. Make sure you cut the hose a little long to avoid kinking.

I was able to get it fixed and done. Thanks Shooter. Figured i would call it quits for the day.

See the new hose in place.

From Jul 17, 2011

July 13, 2011

Spark to the plugs, but the spark is orange. More Troubleshooting

Having spark to all plugs but being orange made me ponder a bit. Started checking fuses as i cant test my ICM cause i cant find my meter.

Found the following fusible link. This is what feeds it all. Connected by one strand of the wire.
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By mansnorkle at 2011-07-13

So after searching the forums. I found that its rated 26a. Replaced it with the following.
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However I put a 30a fuse cause i didnt have a 25a.

This should do the trick. Maybe will help with the spark? Of course, not. It won't even turn over now. Battery drained from trying to crank/jump earlier. Time to charge.

Had the charger on it for 4 hours and its been sitting on the following for 2hrs. Me thinky that the battery is a shot.
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By ManSnorkLe at 2011-07-13

Guess I'll find out when I take it to the parts store to test.

Trying to figure it out.

So, I just bought an 88' Trooper. Bone stock with the 2.6L FI. Car would crank but would not start. Checked for gas leaks. Found a leak in the fuel line coming to the Fuel Pressure Regulator (FPR). Replaced the line. Tested. Good pressure out of FPR now. Tried to crank. No start. Checked for spark out of the Ignition coil. Got spark from coil to wire. Also spark from wire to distributor cap. No spark to plugs.

Replaced rotor and cap. Spark to all plugs now. Pic of the new cap on...
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By mansnorkle at 2011-07-13

However all are orange instead of bright blue. Will crank but not start. Tested compression on the 4 cyls and all are good. It has a new fuel pump. Fuel tank has pressure.

By searching forums online, I think that I've narrowed it down to 4 things.

In order by cheapest replacement.

1. Coolant Temp Sensor - The one that goes to the ECU, not the dummy light or the Guage
2. Ignition Coil.
3. Ignition Control Module.
4. Crank Angle Sensor.

Any Ideas?

Gotta figure out how to test these before dropping the cash to replace them

Please be kind as I'm a newbie to the 2.6L

Meet Gwendolyn III

Hi All, The History....

Back in 1997, age 15 and addicted to porn, I had a thing for the Japanese stuff. So after a summer of spend my days cutting grass, the nights with my virtual ladies, I came across my first Trooper. 1999 Isuzu Trooper II. 2.8L GM V6. 5 Speed. 137K Miles. $2000. Great deal to me. Not so much for the neighbor.

I named her Gwendolyn. Why you ask. Well, I'll tell you. Gwendolyn was the name of the not so attractive girl I was dating or whatever you call it when your 15. This Trooper was a bit beat up around the edges, and also not so pretty. So she got the name Gwendolyn. And I'm lying. I was looking for a jump start to get in that girls pants by naming my car after her. It did get me a base further but then the battery died. With the relationship I mean. However the name stuck and at least my truck would let me rev its engine whenever I wanted.

Gwendolyn followed me all through college. All the surf trips. All the trips with the buds, camping, snowboarding, and to Waffle House @ 2am. In 2004, I graduated and decided as a big grad its time to step things up. I decided to sell Gwendolyn, to my roommate. For $2000. The same that i paid when i got her. @266K miles, Man was she good to me.

The next day, Gwendolyn II came into my life. Found her in the classifieds for $9k and got her for $7K. 1999 Isuzu Trooper. Oh yeah an upgrade baby!. Power Everything. And an automatic. I felt like i was cheating. With only 98K miles she was practically a virgin. Ive been driving her around since then and have got her up to 207K miles and some change.

Which brings us to Saturday, July the 9th of 2011. (Last Saturday).

That am, I was cruising craigslist and came across an add for a 1988 Isuzu Trooper II. 2.6L 4cyl. Automatic. 136K miles. Doesn't run. Asking $500. On a whim and a breath of nostalgia, I made a phone call. Then I went to check her out 5 mins later. Not the best looking, or the worst. Paint Oxidized. Full of stuff that the owner couldn't fit in his garage. He had recent receipts for a new fuel pump and filter and a new water pump. Also, paperwork on new tires from last December and battery from January. Engine compartment was clean though. Thats all I knew about her before I fell in love. I knocked him down to $200. She was mine.

It was time to name her. The Gwendolyn III. Uh duh. Did you think I would break tradition? Never...

Here she is boys and girls.....
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And a view from behind....
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Tires, Rims, SuperWench Manual Locking Hubs...
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Engine Compartment......Clutch fan removed and changed to electric.
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And on Sunday, I towed her home. Trooper pulling a Trooper. The only thing better is also one behind too to make a Trooper sandwich.

This is how I got her. More to come.